As funny as it is to watch Warspite1 do his pivots.. don't get too distracted. 

The truth is still: the only people able to give comment in official capacity are Matrix employees. Everything we hear from them since the release is white-washing bullshit, PR brain farts and ofc most of time: *crickets*. Some old folks giving an alternative point of view is worth one more cricket to me. People have been scamed for money and they deserve compensation for that. Matrix even turned down the bare minimum token-compensations like coupons for other Matrix products without compensation of shipping cost or the like. All you get is some scripted 1st level support dudes answer that he copy and pasted from the company FAQ. 
To this day they fail to deliver on every single one of their promises. I understand that is also one of RFalvo69s points: they get away with it and don't have to answer for it at all and I can very well understand that. It is not a matter of 150 buck down the drain, it is a matter of principle too. They just sit on their ears and do nothing. Everyone who has kids knows where that leads! 

I think Matrix has no more reputation to loose.. and this kind of behaviour probably makes perfect sense to them.a 

On a different note: I was talking to Harry about MWiF last year. We changed topics after a couple of sentences and I didn't want to be too impolite (hard to be,lieve i know..). I understand he went to Matrix because he believed they would get the job done, being an established player in the market segment. Harry is not the person that would punish anyone for not getting the job done, but he is also not exactly happy about MWiF. I am glad that he made a good experience with Kickstarter for the CE and in hindsight he should have went that route with the computer version too. But hindsight is always 20/20. 

Meanwhile.. white-washing and lowering the bar cannot be the way to victory. There has to be some kind of financial compensation for every customer with grievances or, at the very least, a public flogging of Matrix/Slithering. 

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Again why are you defending the indefensible??

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Why are you rushing to the defence of those who are deserving of blame?


Let's start here. What exactly do you think I am defending. And please provide the quote(s). 

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you don't get that you seem like a sycophant


Where did that come from? Again, please be exact, who and what am I displaying sycophancy towards and please provide the quotes that show this? 

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when you start attacking the op


You may want to look at the order of things here, although to be honest, if I cannot make you understand the basic points above then this may be a step too far but lets see where we get to. 

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As funny as it is to watch Warspite1 do his pivots.. don't get too distracted. 

The truth is still: the only people able to give comment in official capacity are Matrix employees. Everything we hear from them since the release is white-washing bullshit, PR brain farts and ofc most of time: *crickets*. Some old folks giving an alternative point of view is worth one more cricket to me. People have been scamed for money and they deserve compensation for that. Matrix even turned down the bare minimum token-compensations like coupons for other Matrix products without compensation of shipping cost or the like. All you get is some scripted 1st level support dudes answer that he copy and pasted from the company FAQ. 
To this day they fail to deliver on every single one of their promises. I understand that is also one of RFalvo69s points: they get away with it and don't have to answer for it at all and I can very well understand that. It is not a matter of 150 buck down the drain, it is a matter of principle too. They just sit on their ears and do nothing. Everyone who has kids knows where that leads! 

I think Matrix has no more reputation to loose.. and this kind of behaviour probably makes perfect sense to them.a 

On a different note: I was talking to Harry about MWiF last year. We changed topics after a couple of lines about the topic and I didn't want to be too impolite (hard to be,lieve i know..). I understand he went to Matrix because he believed they would get the job done, being an established player in the market segment. Harry is not the person that would punish anyone for not getting the job done, but he is also not exactly happy about MWiF. I am glad that he made a good experience with Kickstarter for the CE and in hindsight he should have went that route with the computer version too. But hindsight is always 20/20. 

Meanwhile.. white-washing and lowering the bar cannot be the way to victory. There has to be some kind of financial compensation for every customer with grievances or, at the very least, a public flocking of Matrix/Slithering. 
warspite1 

Dabrion, be very careful now. You actually posted a reasonably coherent post and all without slagging off the acolytes for a change. Well done, that is progress of sorts I guess. 

Out of interest, how much do you believe Harry would have needed to raise on Kickstarter and what would that have been used to fund? Are you talking about the whole expected cost up front or what? Interested in your take on that. 


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I genuinely don't understand how you don't understand? When a donkey brays it's best not to bray back???? 

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I don't talk to children about grown-up topics.. 
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Thank-you. Or in other words, you have not a clue about the topic. A bit like your knowledge of WWII. Good work. Oh and good luck in trying to find HMS Warspite in the Mediterranean eh? 


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"Shall I write Chinese? Japanese? French? What would make the words I write and your understanding fit nicely together in a kind of point - words - reading - understanding type way? I genuinely don't understand how you can be so off base, so out of kilter with what has been said. I'll try a different approach - I'll ask you to explain - maybe that will help. I genuinely don't inderstand how you don't understand?" 

I genuinely don't understand how you don't understand? When a donkey brays it's best not to bray back???? 

Enjoy your game . . . . 
warspite1 

Well you don't understand English so I have no reason to believe you understand donkey so best to leave the braying to those that do. 

I will thank-you. 


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